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            More letters from alumni 
              about ingnorance 
              of history 
               
             
            October 
              16, 2001 
            Ben Edelmans riposte 
              to Alex Rawsons article on the need for more historical exposure 
              deserves a riposte in turn. I have no doubt Edelman speaks for the 
              future Princeton that Harold Shapiro began to shape, "Princeton 
              in the service and in the service of all nations." A hundred 
              years from now, at Princetons tercenquinquagenary, it may 
              well be that we will no longer be an American university. We may 
              be a purely global enterprise, one thats merely "situated 
              in New Jer-see." Until then, however, I take Rawsons 
              side. Princeton boasts American roots. We have an American identity. 
              We are an American university. 
            Edelmans reply 
              was both thoughtful and articulate, but it shows, unfortunately, 
              what happens when a representative of one of those worthy cultures 
              that make up Princetons (and Americas) diverse and worthy 
              array feels compelled to assert that groups claims to curricular 
              hegemony. Of the five items he considers indispensable for all Princeton 
              undergraduates, two focus on what I take to be his Edelmans 
              cultural priority  the Holocaust and the Middle East. Do those 
              events deserve coverage? Of course. Should the lessons they teach 
              be analyzed and absorbed? Absolutely. But to make them the spine 
              of any American universitys historical curriculum strikes 
              me an act of distorted cultural self-interest. 
            Im with those who 
              say that all Princetonians, and especially those who come to us 
              from abroad, ought to learn some of the crucial facts and principles 
              of American history and culture. If this means knowing the name 
              of John Marshall, the dominant shaper of the third branch of the 
              U.S. government, then by all means lets learn it. And learn 
              it first. Global affairs, as we are now even more aware, are going 
              to impinge increasingly on our way of life. Our teaching of history 
              should take note of that pressure  its sources, its beliefs. 
              But we should have a clear knowledge of our culture first. Such 
              a mastery could in fact prove instrumental in helping us shape that 
              wider world according to those unique ideals we as a nation have 
              formulated. 
            Jamie Spencer 66 
              St. Louis, Mo. 
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            July 
              24, 2001 
              Reading 
              On the Campus in May 16 was depressing. It appears to mirror a growing 
              liturgy of reports concerning the ignorance of the U.S. populace 
              at large as to our country's history in particular and world history 
              in general. 
              Of particular interest 
              was the cartoon question posed in the upper right of the page concerning 
              the term "Civil War." Since there was no answer sheet, 
              I do not know the politically correct response, but here again the 
              very term promotes inaccuracy. The conflict within our country during 
              1861-65 was not technically a "civil war," as that refers 
              to two opposing political spheres resorting to force for the same 
              seat of government. This was of course not the case in the better-described 
              "War Between the States." Wonder if that was on the answer 
              sheet? 
              Barton Campbell '61 
              Midlothian, Va. 
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            May 
              24, 2001 
              Alex Rawson '01's On 
              the Campus on historical illiteracy (May 16) probably resonated 
              with more Princeton graduates than would wish to admit it.
              I would have shuddered, 
              especially as a graduate of Princeton and a history major, had I 
              been given such a test as Rawson discussed in his article when I 
              walked out FitzRandolph Gate in June 1997. 
              I also would have shuddered 
              if someone told me I would be one of those pitiable and gloomy creatures 
              called a grad student getting a master's degree in history at the 
              University of Montana four years later.
              Only now, as I wrap 
              up my master's and finish grading a foot-and-a-half high stack of 
              American history bluebooks can I honestly say I feel confident about 
              my historical literacy.
              Princeton students can 
              get through four years debating theory (for instance, the philosophy 
              of Rousseau or Hobbes) without really having to learn about the 
              times in which the theorists lived nor their influence on American 
              history. I fault an advising system that is too lenient or apathetic 
              to deal with the bulk of students, favoring instead, a non-imposing 
              style that gives undergrads too much room to wiggle. 
              Make a standard U.S. 
              history course mandatory (two for history majors). Why? While bright 
              minds deserve some flexibility and diversity in their course choices, 
              many of the same bright minds will skirt important courses and choose 
              an easier route if allowed. GPAs are all too important these days, 
              and frankly, the course descriptions of some American history classes 
              can impress upon a young mind such an impending sense of torturous, 
              rheumatic suffering amidst dusty, ancient tomes in Firestone library 
              that they simply choose one of the many alternatives to what may 
              have been a rewarding and fundamentally important class. 
              Dan Wennogle '97  
              Missoula, Mont. 
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             May 
              14, 2001
              
              I found Alex Rawson 
              '01's On the Campus column (May 16) "Condemned to Repeat It" 
              to be a narrow-minded diatribe aimed at the wrong problem. I am 
              sure that Mr. Rawson is correct in stating that many college students 
              -- even Princeton students -- don't know as much history as they 
              should. But he misses the point entirely when he states "global 
              understanding should build on rather than replace national identity." 
              
              To whose national identity 
              is Mr. Rawson referring? His own as an American? What about the 
              identities of over 400 of his fellow Princetonians who aren't from 
              this country? While Mr. Rawson laments the fact that "most 
              embarrassingly, five students ... could not identify John Adams 
              as the second president of the U.S." I would be surprised if 
              he could name the second president / sovereign / prefect / prime 
              minister of more than a handful of countries other than his own. 
              Should this ignorance disqualify Mr. Rawson from admission to Oxford, 
              McGill, or the University of Kinshasa? I would hope not.
              Yes, history is important, 
              and yes, most Princetonians probably do not know enough of it. But 
              knowing the minutiae of which chief justice presided over Marbury 
              vs. Madison, which U.S. president was second and which was third, 
              and which army general was present at Yorktown, is not the history 
              that Princetonians need to know.
              The history we need 
              to understand is about the British and French Mandates in the Middle 
              East that formed the basis for the half-century of conflict between 
              Israelis and Palestinians. We need to analyze the U.S.'s shift from 
              an agrarian to an industrial to a service economy, and the effects 
              of that shift on urban and rural poverty. We need to learn about 
              the tragedies of the Holocaust, the Khmer Rouge, and the Stalinist 
              mass murders so that we are not, in fact, condemned to repeat them. 
              But memorize which Supreme Court justices presided over which cases? 
              I don't think so.
              I hope Mr. Rawson will 
              open his eyes and look at his fellow students from all over the 
              world. Then perhaps he will realize the need for an understanding 
              of history that goes beyond what you must know to win at Trivial 
              Pursuit. 
              Ben Edelman '93 
              New Haven, Conn. 
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            Although 
              the methodology of Alex 
              Rawson '01's survey in his On the Campus column (May 16) about 
              historical illiteracy was a little suspect, I think the main point 
              stands: Ignorance of history is still at a pretty high level among 
              those who are (or will be) among the most highly educated. Every 
              few years, someone does a survey like this and there is a big hue 
              and cry. (In Canada, my home country, a similar story was published 
              during my last year of high 
              school.) Of course, all of this might be an improvement over the 
              past: I should like to see the results of a similar poll taken in 
              the 1950s, if it existed, before I would forecast the downfall of 
              American democracy. 
               
            Although it's awfully 
              important to have a global perspective, the fact remains that Princeton 
              is a university in the U.S., hopefully educating some of its future 
              leaders. If those persons don't have a certain base level of knowledge 
              about its history, the country's institutions do suffer. In attempting 
              to provide breadth, sometimes we sacrifice depth. I think that a 
              certain deeper understanding of history should be the province of 
              an informed and active citizen. Also, although we celebrate the 
              international character of our student body, we must face the fact 
              that over 90 percent of undergraduates are American citizens. Furthermore, 
              given that the rest of the students have chosen to study at an American 
              institution, they might benefit from a grounding in American history. 
               
            I might also add that 
              Rawson suggested that this additional education happen at Princeton, 
              not before. An additional requirement, though perhaps tiresome to 
              a few students, would not actually prevent anyone from studying 
              here. 
               
            I don't think it's merely 
              a game of Trivial Pursuit (invented by a pair of Canadians, incidentally) 
              to ask students about the history of the development of the Constitution 
              or other major events. (Given the recent prominence of the Supreme 
              Court's decisions, it might be useful to know why it is able to 
              strike down laws...) In an era of declining political participation, 
              such knowledge might actually be of assistance in allowing citizens 
              to create or continue a civil discourse. Is it so terrible to be 
              knowledgeable about the history of one's own country? 
               
            Benjamin Sharma '03 
              Toronto, Canada 
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